tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post2984355719685570219..comments2023-06-07T09:04:36.390-04:00Comments on More Grumbine Science: Ice before 1979?Robert Grumbinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10783453972811796911noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-26432776427455180522015-02-24T14:56:53.152-05:002015-02-24T14:56:53.152-05:00The ESMR data don't show the arctic extent as ...The ESMR data don't show the arctic extent as low as 2007. If anything, higher than any span of 1979-present. See the merged ESMR/SMMR/SSMI data set from the NSIDC: <br />ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/pub/DATASETS/nsidc0192_seaice_trends_climo/total-ice-area-extent/esmr-smmr-ssmi-merged/gsfc.nasateam.month.extent.1972-2002.n<br /><br />And, for the more recent period:<br />ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/pub/DATASETS/nsidc0192_seaice_trends_climo/total-ice-area-extent/nasateam/gsfc.nasateam.month.extent.1978-2013.n<br /><br />If you weren't blinded by your presumptions, you'd have noticed also that I mention the ESMR _was_ close. <br /><br />Please do provide the source which claims ESMR shows low Arctic ice.Robert Grumbinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10783453972811796911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-20297221557152556552015-02-23T22:31:21.880-05:002015-02-23T22:31:21.880-05:00So you are saying the EMRS data that show extent a...So you are saying the EMRS data that show extent as low as 2007-2008 before 1979 is not believeable because of differences in the instruments and processing, or, in other words, those guys were too stupid to even get close??<br /><br />HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-52612961390528165152010-01-08T07:21:37.267-05:002010-01-08T07:21:37.267-05:00It's interesting that you should talk about th...It's interesting that you should talk about this. I've been trying to find if anyone has built a graph of ice coverage prior to 1979. Even with disparate data, it should be possible. It seems to me that the "normal" that all data is compared to these days, i.e. 1979-2000, is a ridiculously small span to derive any conclusion such as "the Arctic is melting..."Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10785630272044873201noreply@blogger.com