tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post3968678301987148734..comments2023-06-07T09:04:36.390-04:00Comments on More Grumbine Science: Petitioning on climate, part 1Robert Grumbinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10783453972811796911noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-63601365142525698392008-08-05T18:59:00.000-04:002008-08-05T18:59:00.000-04:00Sound advice on how to spot the worst of unreliab...Sound advice on how to spot the worst of unreliable sources without having specialized knowledge. Too many people just look for the one news bite that reinforces their own point of view (we are humans after all). Thanks for the work you put into this.<BR/><BR/>blueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-49672198739188640412008-07-25T09:22:00.000-04:002008-07-25T09:22:00.000-04:00Thanks for the kind words and advertising jre. Th...Thanks for the kind words and advertising jre. The web site is also in process of getting updated. Nothing visible at this point. Given my artistic abilities, though, the site's current lack of flash will likely continue. The reliable information and pointers to more and better should be expanding.<BR/><BR/>But I'd say more of a penguin flipper than a pseudopod.<BR/><BR/>kcsphil ... I guess I didn't write it up well. The thing is, almost no engineer signed to the petition. Under 1%. For a field with a 'God complex' (I don't quite agree with that description), that's a heck of a low number. I view it more as engineers being problem solvers. Again, though, this makes it remarkable that so few signed. Folks who expect to be able to solve any problem that comes up (in their area at least) still wouldn't sign. <BR/><BR/>It sounds like a fair part of your situation was that your engineer was trying to solve a different problem than you were. He was trying to build a safe, sound, habitat (period, per the original project plans) and you wanted to address a larger problem of doing something good for the salmon, the habitat being only a shorter term means to that end.Robert Grumbinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10783453972811796911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-33342777264081745382008-07-25T07:56:00.000-04:002008-07-25T07:56:00.000-04:00I'm not at all surprised. Engineers are good smar...I'm not at all surprised. Engineers are good smart people, but they often get a God complex because, once licensed "People's live depend on them." I once got into a lengthy and loud argument with a civil engineer on a salmon habitat restoration project in the Seattle area. He wanted to use big rocks to "armor" the river side of the project area, so the river wouldn't move and possibly overrun the project. In his eyes, if the river shifted course, and the habitat we had worked so hard on became part of the river, the project had failed. In the salmon's eyes, it would have been a smashing success. He is basic tenet cam down to this: He had the license, he had signed the drawings, and so he wasn't going to allow the project to fail because it would call his professional competency into question. In went the rocks.Philip H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12049875206738422083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5337555368793819627.post-92089003286354082112008-07-24T14:39:00.000-04:002008-07-24T14:39:00.000-04:00I left the following on Deltoid:This is splendid n...I left the following on Deltoid:<BR/><BR/>This is splendid news!<BR/><BR/>For the benefit of those who might not be aware of it, I'll mention that <A HREF="http://www.radix.net/~bobg/" REL="nofollow">Grumbine's web site</A> has long been one of the little-known gems of the technical web. For years now, I have been looking to Grumbine's FAQs on climate-related topics as one of the best sources for a summary of hard data. There's no graphics, no flash, nothing but a pile of good old ASCII with reliable information.<BR/>Now that he has put a pseudopod into the blogosphere, I expect Grumbine to improve our web experience in new ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com